Dominion (2008) – Accessibility Teardown

Context of Document

This is not a review of this game. You will find the review linked in the introduction.

Meeple Like Us is engaged in mapping out the accessibility landscape of tabletop games. Teardowns like this are data points. Games are not necessarily bad if they are scored poorly in any given section. They are not necessarily good if they score highly. The rating of a game in terms of its accessibility is not an indication as to its quality as a recreational product. These teardowns though however allow those with physical, cognitive and visual accessibility impairments to make an informed decision as to their ability to play.

Not all sections of this document will be relevant to every person. We consider matters of diversity, representation and inclusion to be important accessibility issues. If this offends you, then please stop reading now. This will not be the blog for you, and we have no interest in debating with anyone whether these issues are worthy of discussion. You can check out our common response to common objections.

Teardowns are provided under a CC-BY 4.0 license. However, recommendation grades in teardowns are usually subjective and based primarily on heuristic analysis rather than embodied experience. No guarantee is made as to their correctness. Bear that in mind if adopting them.

Changelog

6/3/2017 – Softened the wording a little in the socioeconomic section.  It was intended as comic hyperbole, but didn’t come across that way.

Version Reviewed

English second edition (maybe?  My copy has ‘made in the USA’ on the cover, but I can’t actually see that version on BGG).

Note that versioning of board-game versions is at best an informal art – this teardown, despite being for the version noted above (or a version very, very like it) is actually for the first edition of Dominion – this was the one that was the current version at the time of writing.  The Second Edition of Dominion, released in 2016, is treated as its own entry on Boardgame Geek.  So this is the English second edition of the original version of Dominion, rather than the first edition of the second edition.  Confusing, I know but that’s what happens when an industry doesn’t adopt a formal versioning system from the start.   The comments to this article discuss the second edition somewhat, but I haven’t yet obtained a copy of it myself.  When I do, when time permits, I’ll add addenda to each section.

Introduction

Dominion is the grand-daddy of all deck-builders – a veritable colossus of tabletop gaming.   It has spawned an entire sub-genre of games, some of which we have already looked at on Meeple Like Us.  Many of those games are just ‘Like Dominion, with…’ and their accessibility issues will be similar.  Dominion very much deserves its own coverage though, especially given the four star review we gave it.  Is accessibility one of the provinces of Dominion?  Let’s go to town on these impressively large decks.

Colour Blindness

Colour blindness isn’t a problem in Dominion.  I always like when I get to say that!

Colour blind cards

No problems here

There’s nothing in the game that uses colour alone as the channel of information.  All the different kind of cards have their category printed along the bottom, and what colour coding is present is still recognisable as being different from other cards with all categories of colour blindness.

Colour blind mote

Or here!

That extends even to the victory points and the treasure cards:

Colour blind treasures

It really is all okay!

So, a very strong recommendation here for Dominion.

Visual Accessibility

As a card game, Dominion will not be accessible to those with serious visual impairments.   No card is given any kind of tactile identifier that would serve to differentiate it from any other card.  Cards are uniformly well contrasted, but sometimes come with quite a lot of text that needs to be read – for example, the moat and the spy:

Card selection

Not too wordy really

Mostly though the effect cards have is not very complex and can be reasonably easily committed to memory.  The manual has a full reference for all cards, and is printed in a reasonably large font.   Unfortunately, the background of the manual is unnecessarily busy:

Background

It’s a pretty background, but it gets in the way.

The supply of cards available for purchase during a game remains constant – you’ll always have the same options until one or more of the decks are depleted.  As such, once you’re comfortable with the offerings available you won’t need to worry too much about the availability of cards changing radically.  That differentiates Dominion from Star Realms, which has a much greater degree of churn in its economy.    It might be necessary to inquire from time to time as to how many cards of a particular type are left, but that’s a victory condition trigger so asking doesn’t necessarily leak game state.

You deal with a hand of five cards at a time, unless moderated by actions, and these are played face up in front of you.  Mostly, the actions that are permitted are outlined in simple formal language.

Cards

This is how I like to communicate on a day to day basis

When the cards have been played down, you can limit the impact of visual clutter by rotating, discarding or inclining cards to indicate those that have been used in the current turn.   This is going to be important as you keep track of which have been used now and which are still to impact on further draws.

Currency is all handled via cards, and each of the coins you get is of the exact same visual design save for the number in the middle.  The number though is printed at a very generous size, meaning that it’s easy to tell, perhaps with an assistive aid, what you may have in front of you.

For each of the cards in the supply, the cost is presented in the bottom left corner.  This may not be especially easy to see, but the typical layout of cards in the offer will emphasise rising costs so as to alleviate the need to scan the prices.   You can have one row being the threes, another the fours, and so on.   With this kind of system, you can assume that the top (or bottom, depending on your preference) cards have the highest cost.  They’ll be the smoking hot cards, the ones that they’ll need to sell you in a plain brown paper bag.   The opposite ones will be the cheap ones – the ones you don’t really want to buy but do so anyway because indiscriminate consumerism is the closest thing you have to personal happiness.   The price range is not very large – cards range from two to five in terms of cost, and so it will almost certainly be possible to come up with a layout that reinforces financial implication.

Cards are synergistic, but not in the same way that caused visual difficulties for Star Realms.  The synergy is at a much simpler level, such as ‘+2 cards, +1 action’ which allows you to draw two cards and then play another action.   As such, while you will need to work out the implications of your draw based on synergy, it won’t require a lot of visual investigation to work out.   You won’t need to compare factions, or trigger effects based on what may be out in play.

We’ll offer Dominion a recommendation in this category, with the usual proviso that it won’t be accessible for those with the more serious categories of visual impairment.

Cognitive Accessibility

Dominion not as troublesome in this category as Star Realms, but it’s still not something we can at all recommend.  The card synergy is simpler, but still involves an ability to work through the ramification of card interplay and decide on the ordering of actions.  The way in which you play cards is significant – if you play them in the wrong order, you may find that you have accomplished literally nothing.  Playing them in the right order may result in cards cascading everywhere like someone left a weird magical tap running.

Turns are heavily contextual, based on the cards you have in your hand.   Turn order is consistent, turn flow is irregular.  You might play one action and do one buy.  You might play five actions and five buys.  It’s all going to depend on your deck, the cards you play and the order in which you play them.

Knowing the cards that are best to purchase is a function of memory – you need to know what your deck requires, and how best to prune it.  To do that, you need to hold a rough representation of its composition in your mind at all times.  You can look through your discard deck whenever you like, but the deck in active use must remain unknown.  Similarly, knowing what your opponents have been purchasing is important to deciding on your own strategy… SOMETIMES.

See, if you have a witch in the supply you’ll probably want to buy a moat since they prevent attacks.  Or they can be played as a normal action that gives you another two cards in your hand.  Except, you will only want to buy them if your opponent has been buying witches, because otherwise they’re dramatically outclassed by almost any other card you can buy.   But if you’re playing a game where there are moats and few other opportunities to increase your hand limit you’re probably going to want to consider them.  So maybe?   Working this out is expensive for both categories of cognitive accessibility, and the extent to which it makes sense to buy cards will vary as time goes by within any given game.

For other games, you can just ignore your opponent until they start buying up victory points, and even then you can probably potter along quite happily until the first province is purchased.  The cognitive complexity of any given game will vary according to the cards on offer.  I suspect you could probably create a variant with minimal cognitive cost, but it’s unlikely to offer many opportunities to get the best out of Dominion’s robust rule-set.  This is one of Dominion’s interesting accessibility nuances – it is not just the turns that have varying cognitive complexity, but individual game configurations will have an influence as they alter the fundamental landscape of cost and benefit.

Dominion also has an attached requirement for numeracy, because many of the cards have arithmetic implications.  Buying items requires the ability to do simple sums, and may require those sums to be spread over multiple purchases.  It also has a (low) required degree of literacy, although the effects of most cards do not require complex understanding of the text on them.   Dominion makes use of a simple formal English structure, such as ‘+1 buy’ or ‘+2 copper’, except for those cards that have a more individualized effect.

With all of this in mind, we can’t recommend Dominion in either the fluid intelligence or memory categories.

Emotiveness

Luck plays a major part in success or failure, but not as much as it does in Star Realms.   In Star Realms, you need conjunctions of factions to occur for maximum gameplay impact.  In Dominion, while you may be reliant on cards with interesting actions you’re rarely dependent on them coming out in matched sets.   As such, while Dominion adopts fundamentally the same mechanic of control through curation, it allows it to be done more consistently and with more reliable outcomes.    Fortune is less ‘spikey’.   There are still though many times when bad card draws will create frustrations, especially when it comes down to the curses placed in a deck by witches.   Estates, duchies and provinces are self-inflicted wounds – it’s hard to be too put out by their constant resurfacing.  Curses though come in from an external party.

There isn’t a lot of direct player competition in Dominion, but there are a number of cards with explicit take-that mechanics.    We’ve discussed the spy and the witch already, but there’s also the thief – he allows you to directly take treasure cards from your opponents.   The militia too allow you to force an opponent to discard down to a hand limit of three.  Moats permit a defence against this, but only if you have them in hand at the time, and only if moats are part of the game.  If you’re using a randomiser to select starting game state, it’s entirely possible that there will be no way to defend against an attack.

However, none of the attack cards are explicitly targeted – they affect everyone in the same way.  That means there’s no ability to gang up on any one player.  Everyone suffers at the same time, and has the same degree of ability to stop it happening.

Score disparities can be significant, but they’re almost always down to someone not picking up on the fact other people were buying up victory points.   It’s a lesson you only really need to learn once.  The presence of curses in someone’s deck can be annoying, but not in terms of score – mostly in terms of the way they sap important momentum from play.  The victory point penalty is insignificant in the greater scheme of things.

Perhaps the most frustrating element of the game is that on occasion it may become impossible to undo mistakes that you have made.  In games where a chapel can be purchased you can consistently prune bad cards from your deck.  In a game setup where no trash ability is present, every time you buy a card you’re reducing the probability that other cards will be drawn.  Generally speaking, you’ll have more bad cards than good cards because bad cards are far more affordable.  This can make certain games frustrating, but most of the recommended decks are unlikely to leave players with no meaningful options for curation in one form or another.

We’re prepared then to offer a tentative recommendation for Dominion in this category.

Physical Accessibility

The cards in Dominion are of approximate poker card size, and of a decent stock.  As is often the case in deck-builders, you’ll be shuffling these almost constantly.  Every time you run out of cards to draw, you shuffle and create a new draw-deck.   The regular need for shuffling is exacerbated by the limited number of cards you’ll be working with, at least to begin with.  It’s difficult to do any kind of effective shuffle with only ten cards, leaving you with either an overhand shuffle or the space-greedy wash shuffle.   That issue will go away with time as more cards are accumulated, roughly at the same time your deck size means you don’t need to shuffle so often anyway.

Since Dominion is a card game, you’re free to go with a layout that will work for maximum comfort.  There will be approximately seventeen card piles in the supply at any one time.  That’s a lot, but not so many that you can’t have them all in relatively easy reach of two players at once.  You can place them in a manner that is going to work for you.

If the shuffling and reaching over to buy cards is likely to be a problem, the game lends itself well to verbalisation.  You just play the cards you have in front of you, in an order you can unambiguously enunciate.  Each card has its own unique name, and their effects require no complex assessment of intention on the behalf of someone making moves on your behalf.

We recommend Dominion in this category.

Socioeconomic Accessibility

In the review I made mention of how half-hearted Dominion’s theme is.  And that’s absolutely true.  The theme has no meaningful impact on the game play at all.  Many of the cards have little logical connection between what they do and what they purport to be.  The lumberjack gives you an extra buy action.  Why?   That makes zero sense.  The chapel allows you to trash four cards.  Why?  Is it supposed to represent a tithe?  There are more thematic ways to do that even within this subdued remit.

I say this because it’s important to what follows – Dominion has no realistic resort to ‘it’s thematic’ as a defence. So, let’s talk about how Dominion treats women.   Here’s your gender equality:

Box art

A man and his wife.

Haha, no – not the donkey.  What the hell is wrong with you?  That’s horribly offensive.  Look to the right of the donkey – the woman with a basket on her back.  That’s it.  The women in this game are background characters.  Actually no, I tell a lie.  There’s another one:

A witch

Mrs Meeple

So women are either background characters or horrible witches.    As usual, I doubt it’s intentional misogyny, but intentionality doesn’t really matter.

Memoir ’44 has no women at all in it, and that’s something I think is fine.  Memoir ’44 would need to be a dramatically different game if it was based on a different historical context.  Dominion though has no reason why it couldn’t have plenty of women throughout even if they wanted to keep this half-hearted theme intact.  There’s a throne room – of the kind Queen Elizabeth was known to frequent.  There’s a thief, but no reason why he couldn’t be a lady thief.   Why not women in the market?  A soothsayer instead of a witch?  A woman spy?  Everything just defaults to men, including the language in the manual.    Not just men though, white men.   Remember, Dominion doesn’t have a theme that is implemented well enough to excuse it this lack of diversity.

Benetton this isn't

Benetton this isn’t

And then there’s the cost.  Dominion can play up to four people at a time, and has an RRP of £34.   That’s £8.50 per player, which is a considerable sum of money.  And if you buy Dominion at that price, you’re only buying the base set.  There are ten dominion expansions, each costing anything from £20 to £40.  True, you don’t need any of them to enjoy the game but the consensus amongst those that especially enjoy Dominion is that you’ll want at least a few of them to paper over some of the cracks in gameplay.   You can buy a Dominion Big Box which contains the base game plus the Alchemy and Prosperity expansions, but that RRPs at £80.   This is an expensive game to get into.   I’m not enough of a fan of deck-builders to have felt the need to shell out on expansions, but over on What’s Eric Playing he rates the base game at 7.5/10, rising to a 9/10 with expansions.  So – bear it in mind.

And all of this cost is with a ceiling of four players.  If you want five to six, you’ll need to get the Dominion: Intrigue expansion to supply the right number of treasure and province cards.    To be fair, the downtime involved in play is probably such that you wouldn’t want to play it with more than four people at a time.  The player limit does mean though if you want something interesting for a family games night that scales up to parents, kids and another relative it probably won’t be this.

So, we don’t recommend Dominion in this category.

Communication

There is a literacy level required to play without support, but it’s not high and most of what would be involved in this is easily memorised.  Other than that, there’s no specific need for communication in the game.  They don’t call it ‘multiplayer solitaire’ for nothing.

Dominion is strongly recommended in this category.

Intersectional Accessibility

If there is an intersection of visual and physical impairment, there may be some difficulties in optimising card layout.  The traditional system is to arrange each stack in ascending (or descending) cost to aid in visual scanning.  If physical impairment is to be considered, the cards should be positioned in a way that is maximally comfortable to access.  These may be fundamentally incompatible requirements, meaning that additional support from other players is likely to become necessary.

There are no dice-rolls or hidden hands – everything is played out in front of everyone else as you draw from the deck.   There are no constraints on turn time, and while you will increase the size of your deck almost every turn you’ll never be directly manipulating it except when it needs shuffling.

Dominion is a game where downtime can be punishingly dull – there is nothing you can do while you’re waiting for your go to come around again, and usually you’re not even very interested in what your opponents are doing.  It only rarely has any direct impact on what’s going to happen on your turn.   As such, this can be a triggering issue for certain categories of emotional disorder, and can make it very difficult to sustain concentration for those that have an intersection between emotional and cognitive accessibility requirements.

The Dominion box estimates 30 minutes per game.  I think that is… optimistic, certainly when playing with those that haven’t fully internalised the rules.   I would put it closer to forty-five minutes on average, which is on the verge of being a problem in terms of modulating discomfort.   The downtime, given as how other players are rarely doing anything of interest to you,  means that it’s often possible to quickly dip in and out of the game for a few minutes here and there.  It’s especially feasible in games of four players.  That may not be sufficient though.  Provided there is more than one player, you can house-rule a reasonably effective redistribution of wealth and cards in the event someone wants to sit out the rest of the game.  That won’t work though if it’s being played as a duel.

Conclusion

Let’s look and see how the grading chart comes down for Dominion:

Colour Blindness A
Visual Impairment B
Emotiveness C
Fluid Intelligence E
Memory D
Physical B
Socioeconomic D
Communication A-

Deck-builders are systems of building synergy – it’s not a surprise to see that Dominion scores so low in terms of cognitive accessibility.  Its problems in terms of sociological inclusiveness are less easy to forgive.   The meaningful relationship between card name and card effect is so weak that there is no justification for not making an attempt to broaden the representation to include men and women of a variety of different backgrounds.  Normally this wouldn’t be enough to push a game into the ‘not recommended’ category, but there is also a very significant financial outlay that comes with buying the expansions that would open up larger player counts and a more satisfying and interesting long-term experience.  

Radar Chart

Radar’s Rarely Wrong

I bang on about this a lot because I think it’s important.  If board-gaming is to be welcoming to everyone, new players need to be able to look at the boxes on the shelves and think ‘Oh, I can see people like me playing’.   I don’t mean tokenism.   I don’t mean self-congratulatory ‘aren’t we open minded’ celebratory diversity art – I’m not looking for a Beneton advert here.  What I’m looking for is for the game art I see to be reflective of the rich diversity of the people we want to play.  I’m willing to be forgiving when the theme demands exclusion.   Dominion doesn’t have that excuse.

Benneton Advert

Okay, technically this is an advert. And one I’m not being paid for. But it’s being used in a sarcastic way. So… I think the moral high ground is still mine?  Sometimes it’s hard to tell from up here on my high horse.

But let us not end on a sour note.  We gave Dominion a hearty four stars in our review. I may be burned out on deck-builders, but I still recognize that Dominion is exquisitely designed.  It’s oozing cleverness, and if you have the deep pockets required to invest in the many expansion packs, you’ll find yourself with a game that will grow and evolve in line with your own appreciation of its splendid intricacies.


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  • junkmail

    So, the part on diversity kind of ticked me off, which is strange considering I’m a card carrying SJW who loves to bang on about gender representation in games. For instance, this part:

    “Haha, no – not the donkey. What the hell is wrong with you? That’s horribly offensive. Look to the right of the donkey – the woman with a basket on her back. That’s it.”

    Like, holy shit, you’re criticizing a game for it’s gender politics and make stupid sexist jokes at the same time? What the fuck? Then there’s the assumption that you can excuse sexism in a game with “the theme excuses it,” which is the same shitty attitude which leads to people excusing Quiet in MGSV because she “breathes through her skin.” Then there’s the language. Immediately saying

    “So, let’s talk about how much Dominion hates women.”

    Is exactly the wrong way to talk about this. You could do “So, let’s talk about how underrepresented women are in Dominion” or “So, let’s talk about how bad the representation of women in Dominion is” or even “So, let’s talk about the misogyny in Dominion” is fine, but instead we get it phrased in the most misleading, convoluted way. Like, I’ve banged on about the representation of women in Dominion before (spoilers: I think it could be way better) and instead we get this shit.

    • You seem to think that in order to talk about issues of representation and diversity you must adopt the humourless, dead-eyed groupthink that turns so much of the ‘social justice’ movement into the grave of whimsy that the alt-right makes it out to be. That’s fine, you are 100% entitled to your joyless and counter-productive point of view.

      You are also entitled to your hard-line ‘nothing excuses sexism’ philosophy, which is the kind of unachievable goal that makes all progress impossible. Essentially you are buying into the ‘if we can’t fix everything, then we shouldn’t fix anything’ mindset. I understand why that is appealing – it means you get to complain forever without worrying about anyone making an effort to fix the thing you’re complaining about. Complaining is fun, and fixing things is hard.

      Neither of those things, however, are my view.

    • Because I am at heart a teacher, I couldn’t let this go by without correcting the flaws in your logic as well as your entitled attitude. So here’s why you’re factually wrong as well. I’m not usually one for explaining jokes to the humourless masses of Internet malcontents, but I’m at a loose end this morning so I’ll take the time. YOU’RE WELCOME.

      1) Sexism in a joke implies that the joke is different if the gender changes. It assumes some fundamental element in the joke is gendered. If the problem was a lack of male representation, then not a single thing would need to change to make it work. It’s like that ‘racist’ image that Ellen tweeted – that joke stays the same whether it’s a black man, a black woman, a white man, or a white woman. It’s not *funny*, but it’s not racist.

      2) Quiet is not ‘excused by theme’. Quiet is half-naked because that’s what the developers wanted, and they came up with an excuse to make that happen. You seem to have no understanding of what ‘excused by theme’ means. ‘This is the planet of the naked women, so every woman is naked’ is not excused by theme because there is nothing fundamental that requires there to *be* such a planet. ‘There are no women in this game of World War 2 battles’ *might* be excused by theme if the theme is an important, integrated element. Such as the Memoir 44 example I cited in the post. You can’t change WW2 for something else there because the game is fundamentally built on a semi-educational platform. *that* is excused by theme.

      3) Convoluted doesn’t mean what you think it means. There are many free Internet dictionaries that you can use to educate yourself on this matter. Perhaps you mean ‘hyperbolic’, which would be true. And then you can read up on the comedy of hyperbole. You don’t have to find this intentional tonal juxtaposition funny, because that would need a sense of humour. But you should at least understand the rhetorical device being employed before you have a tantrum about its use.

      • junkmail

        You seem to think I lack a sense of humor because I didn’t laugh at your jokes. This isn’t true, I didn’t laugh at your jokes because they were about as unfunny as they get.

        It’s not even that I think you can’t be funny when discussing social justice (I’m a memeber of /r/shitredditsays), I just think that “lel women r donkeys” is about as old and unfunny as jokes go, and an old stupid stereotype about treating women as property. So yeah, the joke does get different when you change the gender of the character in question.

        As for your Memoir ’44 example, you’re right. Context can make an exclusion of women not sexist, but you’ve said one thing in your article and another in your comment. To quote you:

        “Dominion has no realistic resort to ‘it’s thematic’ as a defence.”

        The exclusion of women in M44 isn’t acceptable because “it’s thematic”, it’s acceptable because “within the narrow historical context of this game, there were, in fact, no women.”

        And last, I fucking meant convoluted. Instead of being a pretentious prick and teling me to read a dictionary, consider what you’ve done. You say “Dominion hates women” in a voice that is so fucking flat and humorless that it makes me wonder if the author has heard of a joke before, then go on to explain a relatively minor (in the realm of games) offense. Save “this game hates women” for God of War or some shit like that. The tonal shift doesn’t do shit except piss people off. I know what hyperbole is, and your use of it here is bizarre and confusing.

        YOU’RE WELCOME

        • Sup buddy. I think you mean ‘patronizing’ rather than ‘pretentious’. Your free Internet dictionaries will also help you with that word. Man, words just aren’t your friends, are they?

          I’m not going to defend the jokes as being ‘funny’. That’s for you to decide, and you’ve decided. You get to decide what brings joy to your heart, and this wasn’t it. I can live with that, it’s all gonna be okay. I’m still going to be able to sleep at night, since I have literally no idea who you are.

          Interpreting the joke as ‘Woman as property’ is as clear an example of projection as I can imagine. If that’s what you thought the joke was, holy shit dude. That is *you* reading something horrible into it. Anti-sexism is a sexism of its own when you bring all your own hideous baggage into the discussion. I can’t police the tone of what you bring to the conversation. Those demons are all in your head. There is no joke in the world that will stand up to the scrutiny of someone that *wants* to be offended, and will go out of their way to find it. And seriously, ‘I subscribe to this subreddit’ is not evidence of a sense of humour. You may as well say ‘My mum thinks I’m funny’.

          I think ‘bizarre and confusing’ is a pretty apt description of how you have responded to the entire article. You’ve come in here, swinging your fists seemingly hoping to connect to something. All you’ve done is make yourself look like a bit of an idiot. You picked a stupidly aggressive tone with which to begin a discussion, you got called out on all your logical and definitional flaws, and now you’re trying to rescue the situation and your pride by moving the goal-posts. You were wrong, you got caught out. It’s fine, we all do that sometimes.

          You know, we could have had an interesting discussion had you approached the topic with less of a chip on your shoulder. You didn’t though. Perhaps that’s an important lesson to learn when you tell someone ‘this is the wrong way to talk about this’.

          • junkmail

            I find it very amusing that you think I have made this conversation agressive when your article is deliberately provocative.

            And you just went “pointing out sexism is the real sexism!” so I don’t think you’re worth responding to.

            While we’re busy shit talking each other, I’m sure the three people who read this blog will think so much better of you because of this conversation.

          • Let me quote some parts from your original comment, gentle sir.

            “Like, holy shit”, “What the fuck?”, “shitty attitude”, “instead we get this shit.”

            You can certainly think of the article as deliberatively provocative. After all, you yourself said “The tonal shift doesn’t do shit except piss people off.”

            So you became angry at a tonal shift, in a blog you think has three readers (I get around 250-300 hits a day. Not much, but we’re new!), because of a joke you didn’t find funny, about a card game. You seem to have a problem with proportionality, so it’s entirely unexpected you began from the perspective of an aggressive jackass. You weren’t looking to make a meaningful point – when people have done that in the past I have added clarifications, added new content, or straight up changed content. There’s even a thing in the ‘for publishers’ menu item that explains our policy on a right to reply. I’m all for meaningful discussion, and I’m absolutely open to constructive critique

            You though weren’t looking for something to be fixed, you were looking for a punching bag. If you didn’t think I was worth responding to, you wouldn’t have wasted your time with your long, detailed, and hilariously ill-informed posts.

            Offense is a collaborative exercise, gentle sir. It is offered, and then it is accepted. I did not offer you the offense you accepted. You brought that to the conversation yourself and now you’re slinking off because I’m not taking responsibility for it. I am not making the argument you think I’m making about anti-sexism, but I honestly don’t think you have the necessarily nuance of understanding to make it worth explaining. Those who are reading the comments here will form their own opinions. You, I submit, are too close to the discussion, too irrationally angry, and too embarrassed by your own blunders to have a clear perception.

            Off you trot. 😀

        • P.S. You have a great user name. It’s like you already know everything you say belongs in a spam filter. 😀

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  • Mrs Meeple

    Mrs Meeple here would like to object to the caption referring to The Witch as “Mrs Meeple” 🙁

    • That is fair!

      • I changed it now that you’ve seen it, because that ordinance has now exploded. 😀

        Ironically, if Junkmail had taken umbrage at *that* joke I would have had literally no reasonable defense. 😛

  • Kit Sovereign

    Do you have any plans to review the Second Edition printing that was released this year? I like the work y’all do and would gladly help get a copy into your hands if you have an Amazon wishlist or something.

    • That’s very kind of you. 😀

      I’m not set up (as of yet) for any sort of contribution, but I’ve seen some of images of the second edition printing and it looks like they’ve done well in broadening the roster. I think there’s supposed to be a self contained upgrade pack with the new cards, which I will probably pick up and add an addendum for here. It certainly looks like good changes have been made.

      • Kit Sovereign

        Yeah, apparently DXV found out that if you don’t explicitly tell the artists “draw women”, they generally don’t. :c

        The reason I mentioned the full 2e version instead of just the upgrade pack is that there are a few other accessibility buffs: the treasure/VP cards are easier to tell apart, and the card text is larger/gender-neutral/simplified when possible. It also has fewer Attacks (Spy was removed and Thief was replaced by Bandit). Lots of interesting tweaks overall.

      • LastFootnote

        Man, I was just coming here to give you a piece of my mind for reviewing the out-of-print first edition and thereby misleading folks about what they’d most likely get if they bought Dominion today. But then lo and behold, I find that this review was actually written right before the Second Editions were released. So it makes more sense. And yet you just today linked it over on BGG. Why is that?

        In addition to larger fonts (visual), shorter and clearer card wordings (visual), much more equal gender representation (socioeconomic), and gender-neutral pronouns (socioeconomic) that Kit mentioned, the second edition is also intended to “paper over the cracks” such that you don’t need to quickly reach for an expansion.

        I would appreciate if you would at the very least change the “Version Reviewed” section of your review, which is incorrect even for the edition you have (the “Made in America” is not the second printing/edition/whatever; it is at least the third) and is likely to confuse folks into thinking you are actually reviewing the true Second Edition of Dominion.

        • Hey hey

          I’m currently in the process of populating the BGG blog for Meeple Like Us with historical content. It’s tedious work though so I only do one a day – eventually they’ll sync up and blog posts over there will match up to what’s newly published here.

          That’s a fair point about the version, but I can’t find any reference to the *actual* version I have on BGG or anywhere else. It’s perhaps an EU localized box, since the back is marked up with EU distribution information and no version information (except for an ELM 51122 stamp that may or may not mean something). I’ll have a hunt around to see if I can locate the actual details of it.

          I still intend to add an addendum to this regarding the actual second edition of the game, but it’s still an entry on an increasingly long ‘todo’ list. By all accounts the second edition does do a great job across the board in a lot of these categories.

          • LastFootnote

            Well as long as you’re willing to put out outdated information to the readers of your reviews, I guess that’s your prerogative. But I mean, why even write and post reviews at all if you’re not going to do the legwork to make sure your information is accurate? Or even make corrections when someone else has done the legwork for you? That’s pretty poor form if you ask me.

          • The information was accurate at the time of writing, publication, and as dated in this review. It is also correct for the edition of the game as is linked in the review even if that’s not the *specific* box I have. The edition information is provided for that reason.

            If you’ve got a problem with historical blog information being put on BGG then that’s on you I’m afraid. BGG is full of people that get very upset at the slightest provocation, after all.

            If you get me a correct version for the box I have, I’ll update it. However, you are over-stating the ‘legwork’ you have done. You have provided me with nothing concrete I can use to correct the edition information. Provide that information and I will. Otherwise, it will have to wait until I have the time to track it down.

          • LastFootnote

            Hey, thanks for adding that new paragraph to the “Version Reviewed” section; that’s all I wanted. Just to be clear to readers what was actually being reviewed. It’s unfortunate that this review was linked to BGG right around the time that the edition being reviewed is disappearing from shelves, but what can you do.

            And sorry for being so antagonistic, but you yourself used pretty callous language in your review. And it’s frustrating when a lot of work went into making a new edition more accessible along several of these axes, only for someone to come along and ignore all that in favor of reviewing an outdated version. Your intentions may have been good, but as you say yourself, “Intentionality doesn’t really matter.”

          • I make corrections based on validity of the points raised. Your antagonism was, and is, neither here nor there.